I first heard Mark Perna speak at Kalahari in Sandusky a few months back, and I'll be honest. I counted him out at first because he didn't come from a traditional educator's background. Five minutes in, I realized I was listening to one of the greatest educators I've ever met.
This conversation is a game changer. We dig into the engagement gap, the real role of AI in preparing students for the future, and how to give hope and opportunity to the bottom half of the class, the top half, and everyone in between. You're going to walk away with a fresh framework for helping students find their "want to" and build a competitive advantage that carries them for life.
Mark Perna is the founder and CEO of TFS Results, a weekly contributor at Forbes, and the multi-award-winning author of Answering Why: Unleashing Passion, Purpose, and Performance in Younger Generations. His book has gone through 14 printings in seven years and won eight national book awards, including the prestigious Nautilus Award. Mark is the creator of the Career Tree and Skill Tree strategies and speaks to tens of thousands of students, educators, and employers across North America every year.
"Younger generations are not a problem to be solved. They're actually a tremendous asset to be unleashed within your home, your classroom, and your place of business."
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"AI can be an engine for equity, but only if we maintain the heartbeat of the classroom: the relationship."
In this high-energy, live-recorded episode, Kelly Croy sits down with Casey Cuny, the 2024 California Teacher of the Year. Recorded live at the 3rd Annual SEL Symposium, Casey shares his moving journey from a 13-year-old bone cancer patient to a leader in educational innovation.
Casey and Kelly dive deep into how AI shouldn't just be a tool for "offloading" work, but a thought partner that fosters differentiation, upskilling, and deeper student inquiry.
The Human Connection: Why Casey’s teachers became the "central characters" in his survival story and how those relationships remain the most powerful tool a teacher has.
Limb Salvage & Resilience: Casey shares the surreal moment he had to choose between amputation and experimental surgery at age 13, and how that shaped his empathy for students facing invisible challenges.
AI as a "Thought Partner": Moving beyond "cheating" to using AI for Socratic tutoring, real-time differentiation for ELL students, and "upskilling" for the future workforce.
The "Screenshot Hack": A brilliant tip for using visual context in ChatGPT to solve any tech support hurdle instantly.
The AI Divide: Why we must be careful not to let AI become the new "digital divide" between title-one schools and affluent suburbs.
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Answering Why: Unleashing Passion, Purpose, and Performance in Younger Generations by Mark Perna. (A must-read mentioned as an upcoming guest!)
Intentional Influence: The Art and Science of Building a Culture of Excellence by Benjamin Johnson and Bobby Dodd.
Unthink Before Bed by Kelly Croy. (Help your kids—and yourself—quiet the mind for a better night's sleep!)
Claude.ai: The coding tool Casey’s son used to land a marketing internship.
ChatGPT: For using "Visual Context" to bridge the gap between curiosity and mastery.
"Courage is not being fearless. Courage is being afraid but going ahead anyway."
"Our English language learners don't have a cognitive deficit; they have a vocabulary deficit. AI allows them to access the content immediately."
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Host: Kelly Croy
Guest: Casey Cuny
Website: WiredEducator.com